Sooner Baseball’s Journey to a Title

The Oklahoma baseball program played its first game in 1898. It owns one of the richest traditions in collegiate sport, has over 2,400 wins and has been coached by just nine men throughout its illustrious history. The measuring stick for all programs in college baseball is found in only one place; Omaha, Nebraska. On the hallowed ground that was historic Rosenblatt Stadium, like its successor TD Ameritrade Park, is where every team strives to be for the last game of the season, to win the College World Series and to take part in one of the most iconic scenes in the college game…the dogpile.

Oklahoma has earned the right to play in Omaha on 10 occasions and won the National Championship twice. The first title for the Sooners came in 1951 under head coach Jack Baer. Twenty years ago, OU claimed its second title in 1994 under head coach Larry Cochell. That season marked the team’s eighth trip to Omaha and second in three seasons. The Sooners were loaded with talent, top-to-bottom, featured the type of leadership championship teams are made out of and rallied around the motto of “25 Guys Pulling on the Same Rope”.

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This year, Oklahoma celebrates the 20th Anniversary of winning the 1994 National Championship. Tonight on FOX Sports Oklahoma, Sooner fans can watch the first two games of the 1994 College World Series (7 p.m. vs. AU, 9 p.m. vs. ASU) as part of the Crimson Classic series. Before you watch the games, enjoy this oral history of the championship from the coaches and players who lived it.

Russell Ortiz, Sophomore Right-Handed Pitcher: We had the best closer in college baseball that year and our starters were very solid. Our pitching did a great job in the World Series. To be able to get to Bucky, we kind of knew the game was over.

Mike Treps, Sports Information Director/Radio Broadcaster: We had Bucky Buckles in the bullpen and when he came in to close a game, it was closed.

Bucky Buckles was the Sooners junior right-hander that dominated out of the bullpen in 1994. He set a then-Big Eight and OU record with 14 saves that season. Buckles was the fourth pitcher to toe the rubber in the championship game against Georgia Tech. He threw 3.2 innings to earn the save and the celebration ensued.

Ortiz: When that final out happened, I was in just such a state of euphoria at that point. The only thing I remember was myself and two other guys got stepped on from behind and tumbled, but I don’t think I’d ever gotten up that fast in my life.

MJ Mariani, Junior Third Baseman: I remember jumping on the dogpile and just being light as a feather. I still get goosebumps thinking about it.

Tim Walton, Junior Right-Handed Pitcher: When I see that dogpile, I mean everyone in the dugout was like, “Come on.” I already got my shirt on and I already have my arm iced down and gosh what an experience to see those guys.

I remember jumping on the dogpile and just being light as a feather. I still get goosebumps thinking about it.

Mark Redman, Sophomore Left-Handed Pitcher: My wife asked me, “Where were you in the dogpile?” I made sure to get out there late because you don’t want to be on the bottom. I remember it was a blur. We were running out there and the cameraman was trying to beat us out there. Back then, they didn’t have the wireless cameras so the cameraman was pulling this wire past all the players and I had to hurdle it to try to get to the dogpile. Next thing you know, you see Tim Walton flying through the air and landing on top of the pile. It’s surreal. There’s no other feeling in sports like winning a championship and knowing that you won the last game of the season.

The Sooners had reached the pinnacle of their sport, won 50 games and were heading back to Norman with the program’s second National Championship. Throughout the NCAA regionals and the College World Series, Oklahoma only trailed at the end of an inning once, putting together a dominant performance with a perfect 8-0 record and outscored opponents, 69-27.

However, the season didn’t start on a road with a clear path to Omaha. The Sooners were left out of all three major college baseball polls to start the season. Despite appearing in Omaha in 1992, Oklahoma was fighting to erase the memory of a 31-win season in 1993 that ended with a losing record in the Big Eight and failed to produce a NCAA postseason appearance.

The first championship a team can win is its league’s regular season title. At 21-9, the Sooners finished second to their rivals from Oklahoma State, which went 21-6 to claim the top seed at the Big Eight Championship at All Sports Stadium in Oklahoma City.

Oklahoma bounced back from a 3-2 loss to Nebraska in the tournament opener to win three straight, including a 21-4 win over the Cornhuskers, to set up a date with the Cowboys in the conference championship. The Sooners took an early lead with a run in the first, but OSU took the lead in the fourth. OU tied the game at two in the fifth only to see the Cowboys pull ahead for good with a four-run sixth inning, leading to a conference title to go with their regular season crown.

Walton: Going through the loser’s bracket of the Big Eight Tournament; that held our team accountable. A lot of good players learned who they were, going through the loser’s bracket. I learned who coach Cochell was. I’ll be honest; I had never seen a coach tell the players to go back to the hotel for air conditioning. This guy got it.

Mariani: After that Big Eight Tournament, to remember the guys – everyone was just somber. We knew we were better than that. What are we going to do? How are we going to find a way to get this thing done? Everybody just kind of checked themselves. Everybody kind of looked in the mirror and said, ‘What can we do to just find a way and just get it done?’ It started after that tournament. Everybody’s attitude changed.

Rick Gutierrez, Senior Second Baseman: [In 1993,] I was at home watching the College World Series and one of my junior college teammates was playing, and he was playing for Texas A&M at the time. I was with my friend and I told him, “You know what? Next year we’re going to win in Omaha.” A week later, coach Cochell called me and he asked me if I was going to sign or if I was going to come back and I told him, “Coach, I’m coming back. We’re going to win this whole thing.” Losing that Big Eight championship game against Oklahoma State; I knew that I came back for a reason. I knew that we didn’t come back to win a Big Eight. We tried and we came up short. So I told the team, “Big Eight is over. We got better plans now and we got to get ready to go to the College World Series.”

Larry Cochell, Head Coach: Well, most lot of kids came back from the ’93 team and they came back more determined because that wasn’t a very good year. And we had great leadership in Gutierrez and [Darvin] Taylor, Mark Redman and Mariani and older guys that brought our younger guys along.

We’re just going to be better than they are.

Redman: We had about five guys that played that summer prior to the ’94 season. They played in a summer league up in Alaska. That summer, we won the summer league championship and we just had a good vibe coming in that, hey, we can continue this. We weren’t, on paper, the best team, but we had the chemistry and camaraderie of the team to go out there and not be afraid of any powerhouse team and go out there and play small-ball and get the job done. It took everyone. Even down to the players that didn’t get to play that often and down to the players that kept the team morale up.

Treps: This team had a couple of leaders that if you loped or if you didn’t carry out what you were supposed to do, you heard not just from the coaches, you heard from some of the players. Ricky Gutierrez, our second baseman, was the Player of the Year in the conference, and I’m telling you, if I loped, I wouldn’t want to talk to Ricky coming off the field.

Cochell: [Gutierrez] was a fabulous story. He was in a gang in the Los Angeles area because everybody was in a gang. He happened to get in this baseball class when he was a freshman in high school. He never played baseball and he had hair down to his belt. He became a great player and the punch line is: when we recruited him, he thought he was going to Oklahoma State.

Gutierrez: [In junior college,] I was getting recruited by a lot of colleges and [my coach] didn’t want to fill out all the paperwork for all the universities, so he asked me, “Ricky, where do you want to go? Because I’m not going to fill out every form or talk to every coach that is looking for you.” And I remember watching the World Series and I heard the TV announcer say that the Oklahoma schools are great hitting schools. So it was Oklahoma State playing at that time. I didn’t know there were two universities; Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. So I told my coach, “Oklahoma.” So I ended up here, but during the preseason I looked at the paper and Oklahoma is not ranked. Oklahoma State is ranked like 14th or 12th. And I told coach, “Coach, who is Oklahoma State?” and he goes, “Oh those are our rivals. They’re pretty good.” And I told him, “I think I was supposed to go there, coach.” He looked at me and he was like, “What’re you going to do?” And I said, “Nothing. We’re just going to be better than they are.”

For the 1994 season, Oklahoma returned 14 letterwinners, most notably its middle infield duo of Gutierrez and Rich Hills. The stability of a baseball team is evidenced by the strength of its core up the middle. Gutierrez at second and Hills at shortstop were a valuable commodity and were backed in center field by senior Chip Glass. Joining the fray was freshman catcher Javier Flores.

Cochell: We caught in the National Championship Javy Flores, who was just a freshman catching in the National Championship game and Georgia Tech had [Jason] Varitek. So that was the type of team we had and it really took care of the younger kids and brought them along. The kids grew up. Ability does not win national championships. Character and ability wins national championships. I used to say, “Ability and no character will get you beat in big games.” But that group in ’94 had character and ability and that’s the reason we prevailed.

Ability and no character will get you beat in big games.

Mariani: When I got here, I’m looking to the left. I’ve got All-American shortstop Rich Hills. I got All-American second baseman Rick Gutierrez. I got Damon and Ryan Minor. I got Javier Flores behind the dish. It just brought the game to a whole new level. The big thing for me was just the chemistry of the players. The thing about that team is that we were, on and off the field, together and we had that chemistry.

Entering the 1994 season, Oklahoma baseball had no household names among college baseball circles and returned one All-American in Hills and one 1993 MLB Draft pick in Gutierrez. Given time, the Sooner roster would write itself a different story and both Hills and Gutierrez would earn All-American honors in 1994. Hills picked up a third All-American nod in 1995, joined by MLB first round pick Mark Redman and future three-time All-American catcher Javier Flores. Four players from the 1994 squad went on to play Major League Baseball, including Redman, Russell Ortiz and Damon and Ryan Minor.

Treps: Going into the season, we thought we would be good and it turned out that everybody had a role to play and I think that’s what made us so successful because it wasn’t just one [player]. It was just the kind of team that you prayed you had as a coach and as a broadcaster.

Ortiz: That year, we played in a tournament in California, if I’m remembering right. It think Georgia Tech was there and Cal State Fullerton. I can’t remember exactly how we did, but I know we did well. I know we competed. I think at that point, at least myself; I knew we could compete with the big boys of college baseball.

Walton: Kansas State, I pitched actually, pitched a great game and I don’t remember if we won or lost. Our team called a players-only meeting and Russ Ortiz, who is not a very outspoken person, he called us out. Ricky Gutierrez, who was very outspoken, he called us out and gave us chills and we had that moment in a player room where, we needed to be better.

Redman: There was not a specific turning point that I can think of because we went out in California to play in a preseason or early-season tournament and we ended up playing Georgia Tech out there and we ended up beating them. And sure enough, we ran into them again in the finals of the World Series.

Cochell: During the season, you play 70 percent of the way you’re capable of playing, 15 percent above, 15 percent below. We went through a period of time where we didn’t do particularly well, but you look at the long haul. I used to tell the kids that everything you play for is the regionals. Until you get to the regionals, everything else is preseason. That’s what counts. They just stayed with the task and we knew with Redman and Buckles and [Steve] Connelly and Ortiz and Minor and the players we had, Hills at shortstop. We had some good players. We knew we had a chance, but you have to be lucky to win a National Championship.

Gutierrez: I remember it like it was yesterday. That’s why you come to OU. You want to beat Oklahoma State and you want to beat Texas. You want the big under-the-lights game. We knew we were going to beat Texas. Coach Cochell always believed that you play the best teams on the road and even if you lose, you learn something. So we played them two times before in that year. So going there was like a home field for us. We felt confident that we were going to beat Texas.

Following the Big Eight Tournament, Oklahoma was awarded the top seed in the Central Regional in Austin, Texas. The host Longhorns were slated in the three-seed. A match-up of regional rivals sat two wins away for each squad. The Sooners took care of business against Arkansas State, 10-3, and Stanford, 10-4, while Texas defeated Stanford, 8-4, and Nevada, 16-6.

Oklahoma put up one of its most impressive performances of the season, defeating Texas in dominating-fashion, 15-4. The Sooners ran off a three-run first inning and put the game away in the seventh with a six-run spot. Kevin Lovingier and Kenneth Gajewski held the Longhorns to just three hits, while Oklahoma poured in 19, including four home runs, four doubles and three triples. Texas would bounce back with a 9-4 win over Arkansas State to set up a re-match in the regional final.

Cochell: To go to the World Series we were playing Texas in Austin. We played two day games and on the scoreboard it said 102 degrees and it’s Astro Turf, so you can imagine how hot it was on the field. So we beat Stanford and Texas with two back-to-back day games. That tells you the tenacity of the young men and how they were focused.

Treps: First of all, we had to go to Austin, Texas and that is not exactly the place you really want to go. The first time we played Texas, we beat them badly. Then we played them again the next day and beat them again. So you’re winning two games from your biggest rival in their home park and that told us that we’re something special.

Walton: Most people think that going to Texas is the coolest thing ever, but that’s our rivalry. They probably had more guys go to the big leagues than we did, but it was cool. We had a rain delay and we were sitting in Texas’ locker room in Texas’ dugout and everyone on the team was like, “This is the coolest thing we have ever done.” If we are going to go to the World Series, we are going to do it on Texas’ side of the field on the third base side.

Mariani: I remember the ‘Wild Bunch’, I think they called them. They were the lawyers and doctors and whoever that would sit behind our bench and just rag right there on you like cheap suits. Playing in Disch-Falk and playing in Texas is just a big-time atmosphere. Getting it done in an environment like that is just awesome. There are just thousands of people watching the game. It was like they were on you. It was just a cool environment and to win it, I just think that was probably tougher than the World Series. I think when we got done there, we had so much confidence going to the World Series, we just got it done.

Oklahoma had to go through Texas and win once more to advance to Omaha, while the Longhorns needed to knock off the Sooners twice to move on. Oklahoma took care of business in its first chance, never trailing in the game, with a 6-3 win. Redman got the win and Buckles, as he’d done all season, got the save.

Upon arriving in Omaha, Oklahoma was seeded fourth among the eight remaining teams and seeded on the same side of the bracket as perennial powers Miami and Arizona State as well as Auburn.

Ortiz: You’re one of the last eight teams playing and everybody is there for one goal; to raise that trophy. No one ever lost sight of what the goal was. I think the first game that we had was a dog fight. I believe it was against Auburn.

Walton: In the first game of the World Series, Bucky Buckles was having trouble with Auburn and coach goes, “Hey Tim, go warm up.” Warm up? I am a starting pitcher and I have never warmed up. [The next day,] game two of the World Series, I couldn’t throw a strike and I threw more balls on the field than I did in my catcher’s glove.

In the opener, it was once again the one-two pitching combination of Redman and Buckles that led the way. Redman struck out 11 over seven innings and Buckles, though he gave up two runs on five hits, earned his 13th save of the season.

FINAL SCORE: Oklahoma 5, Auburn 4

To advance to the final, Oklahoma twice faced Arizona State, which was making its 17th College World Series appearance. The Sun Devils were under the direction of their legendary, 23-year head coach Jim Brock. However, Brock would miss the remainder of the series due to an on-going battle with liver cancer and ultimately passed less than a week later.

Buckles got the win and Gutierrez drove in Dusty Hansen with the game-winning run in the top of the 11th on a sacrifice-fly to center.

“That was one of the best college games I’ve ever been associated with…but I’d be less than honest if I didn’t say it was one of my least happy victories because of the situation Jim is in,” Cochell said following the game.

Cochell: We’re playing Arizona State and the bases were loaded – I think. And we’re up one run and Chip Glass makes a running catch. If he doesn’t catch the ball, we probably, may not have won the National Championship because of a change of our pitching at the time. That catch was one of the biggest plays in the ballgame. It wasn’t me getting Rich Hills thrown out at home plate.

FINAL SCORE: Oklahoma 4, Arizona State 3

Mariani: I got sick the night before [playing ASU] and I was in the hospital and I wasn’t slated to play. I was still in bed when the team had left to go to the yard. I got there just as they were finishing BP and I ran out and told coach, “Hey I can still go, Coach.” And coach put me in. To this day, I still think about it. He had the ability to make that decision…he just knew something.

Walton: We had to go through a tough Auburn and we had to go through Arizona State, twice, and we had to go through Georgia Tech, which was by far one of the best collegiate baseball teams of all time.

Arizona State defeated top-seeded Miami, 9-5, to set up the re-match. Redman pitched a complete game and allowed just one run and struck out six. Chip Glass hit his second home run of the World Series, a 380-foot shot to right-center to lead-off with second gave the Sooners a 2-0 leads, and powered the OU offense with a 3-for-4 day at the plate.

Redman: Larry does say I got him there. I was able to pitch that game, but the team got us there. I happened to pitch that game before that put us in the position to be able to win the championship and I was only able to throw the baseball. Guys behind me had to play great defense, guys had to go up there and plate me some runs. I just happened to get the ‘W’ behind my name at the end of the day. It allowed me to sort of relax the next day and just watch a World Series game and pull for my team.

“My feeling is you never win in Omaha with fastballs,” Cochell stated after OU advanced to the final. “You need breaking balls and change-ups. In my opinion, you can throw 95 miles an hour, but you better have something else with it. [Mark] was outstanding. You can’t pitch much better. He was as tough as nails.”

Darvin Traylor put the final touches on the victory with a two-run home run in the top of the ninth; all but clinching the win.

FINAL SCORE: Oklahoma 6, Arizona State 1

Waiting for Oklahoma was Georgia Tech, which was making its first appearance in Omaha. The two-seed Yellow Jackets, like the Sooners, had moved through the double-elimination playoff unscathed. The Ramblin’ Wreck featured a lineup with three first round picks in shortstop Nomar Garciaparra, catcher Jason Varitek and center fielder Jay Payton along with second round pitcher Brad Rigby.

Redman: They had, on paper, the studs. It was a good game and we’re fortunate that it went our way, but we prevailed because we never worried about what we’d come up against. We just went out there and enjoyed it and pulled for one another and believed that we could do it.

Cochell: I can remember the game was out of reach when Damon Minor hit the home run in the zoo. A lot of people talk about that. Georgia Tech had Garciaparra, Varitek, Payton and [Rigby]. They had four big league players. We had Redman, Ortiz and Ryan and Damon Minor.

We had nobody, but we had everybody.

Treps: Redman had gotten us to the finals. We started Kevin Lovingier and then replaced him with Tim Walton and then Shawn Snyder and then right on to Bucky Buckles. And we put the game away early. They tied it in the second, but we ran away.

Walton: [Georgia Tech] had those guys and the guys had stuck around one more year to try and get a National Championship. We had our guys. We had Redman and the Minor brothers and Rich Hills and Rick Gutierrez and MJ and Chip Glass. Chip had one of the best tournament runs of anyone in NCAA history. Those guys were awesome, but it was different and we knew that. We had nobody, but we had everybody.

The Georgia Tech stars combined for a 6-for-13 performance with home runs from Garciaparra and Varitek, but Oklahoma weathered the storm and pulled away with a five-run fourth inning. Damon Minor and Rick Gutierrez drove in three runs each as the Sooners set a College World Series final record with 13 runs and tied the record for hits with 16.

Aric Thomas and Darvin Traylor had three hits apiece at the top of the order and Chip Glass came through with a 2-for-5 day, including his third home run in Omaha, to earn CWS Most Outstanding Player. In the Sooners five-run fourth, Glass scored on a two-run single by MJ Mariani; running through coach Cochell’s stop sign at third and avoiding Varitek’s tag at the plate on a disputed call.

“When the ball was hit, I had it in my mind to score and I didn’t see coach put his hands up until I was going by him,” confirmed Glass after the game.

The Sooners put the game away with a three-run homer from Damon Minor in the sixth inning, followed by Glass’ solo shot.

“They had been pitching me inside all day,” Minor told reporters. “The coaches had the hit-and-run on. I just wanted to get it in play and the pitch was right there.”

FINAL SCORE: Oklahoma 13, Georgia Tech 5

Oklahoma wrapped up its second National Championship with a 50-17 season and rolled past the competition in the NCAA Tournament without losing a game.

The following season, the Sooners went back to Omaha. They ran off four straight wins in the Midwest Regional to win 12 straight NCAA games, but the dream of a repeat would end in Omaha with back-to-back losses to Florida State and Southern Cal.

Since then, the tournament field has expanded and the NCAA now features one more hurdle to overcome before reaching Omaha. Oklahoma has been to 36 Regionals in its history and four Super Regionals. The Sooners last made the trip to Omaha in 2010 where it defeated eventual-champion South Carolina in the opener, but was ultimately eliminated with losses to Clemson and the Gamecocks.

Oklahoma has earned the right to play in Omaha 10 times, tied for the 13th most by a program, and is hungry to return. The Sooners have reached the Super Regionals in each of the last two seasons. Last season, Oklahoma won the Blacksburg Regional, the very regional hosted by its current head coach Pete Hughes.

Pete Hughes, First-Year Head Coach: It’s why I come to work every day. It’s why I took the job at Oklahoma; to go to Omaha on a consistent basis and win a National Championship. It’s the pinnacle of my profession. Why Oklahoma? Look at the tradition and the history. They’ve already proved they can be the greatest in the nation. I told those ’94 guys, we recruit with you and what you did, every single day. Oklahoma is good at everything. Look at all of our sports. The point I’m making is, it’s about tradition and history and what Oklahoma is capable of doing.

I think it’s every coach’s dream to have the type of team that we had that year.

Mike Anderson, First-Year Assistant Coach: I really think, teams that get to Omaha are hot-hitting teams. Pitching and defense will get you to the championship game, but you’ve got to be hot offensively. This team has the capability of getting hot. Hopefully we can get hot at the right time. The other characteristic, from an offensive standpoint, is you’ve got to be grinders. You’ve got to have nine guys in the lineup that are producing at a given time and you can’t have easy outs. We’re trying to produce and create with this team, which I think you see in the 1994 National Championship team. They had nine guys that were grinding out at-bats and producing all of the time. It’s something we’re trying to recreate.

Hughes: Those ’94 guys, that’s a special team right there. When you try to put a team together, within the recruiting process, you need a couple Major Leaguers on your roster, but it’s the ancillary guys, it’s the character guys, it’s the chemistry. I was around those guys, when we brought them back and you could tell they were special. They had chemistry special enough to win a National Championship 20 years ago and they’ve still got it today.

Anderson: At Nebraska, we had some unbelievably memorable trips. We were a home-state school going to the World Series so we had this unbelievable support up there. It was unique walking into the stadium. I always say this to kids, I just want you to have the experience and the goosebumps you get by walking into that stadium and being one of the elite eight teams in the country and having a shot for a championship.

Coach Hughes has surrounded himself with personnel that have made the trip to Omaha. Anderson was brought in to be the Sooner’s hitting coach. He previously, reached Omaha three times at Nebraska, including 2005 as the head coach of the Cornhuskers. Coordinator of baseball operations Ryan Gaines, equipment interns and former player Erik Ross and Max White, as well as administrative assistant Debbie Boyls have all had a hand in Oklahoma’s success over the last two decades.

Hughes: We talk about going to Omaha every day in our program…every single day. I know it’s the motivating force for all these guys when they’re lifting at seven in the morning or we’re practicing and it’s 35 degrees out. They understand the big picture and the price and sacrifice you have to make to make the big picture clearer and the big picture is Omaha. Ryan has been there, Woody has been there and Max White has been there. Even Deb Boyls was a part of that National Championship family. I love looking at these pictures every day. I was looking at the one of the players coming on the field in 2010, this morning. That’s awesome. That’s what we’re shooting for. Anyone that’s been there, I’m picking their brain and I’m listening. They’re a part of the tradition that is Oklahoma. That’s what makes this place special.

On June 27, Hughes was introduced as the ninth head coach in program history. The Sooners have been successful at every turn under each new coach. Bennie and Bill Owen coached Oklahoma during its infancy and Lawrence Haskell, whom the field which the Sooners played on before L. Dale Mitchell Park was named after, held the top spot until World War I. From there, Jack Baer won the program its first title and Enos Semore collected a program record 851 wins. Stan Meek succeeded Semore and Cochell held the job for 15 seasons before giving way to Sunny Golloway. Cochell totaled 511 wins, the second most at OU, nine NCAA Tournaments and three College World Series appearances.

Walton: I loved playing for coach Cochell, One thing about playing for coach, he never got in the way of his players.

Redman: It’s neat because he had the passion, the fire and the belief that it takes to win. He believed that I could be a key part of it as well. When you play for a manager or coach that believes so much into his teaching and his program, you’re going to believe it too.

Hughes: When I’m around coach Cochell, I shut my mouth and I listen. There’s only one coach in the country that has brought three teams to Omaha. I’ve never gone to Omaha. He’s got the blueprint. That had a lot to do with me hiring Mike Anderson. He’s been there. What a resource coach Cochell is to have in my hometown. He’s back around the program and he’s here all the time. He’s a high-character guy, and unbelievable baseball guy and I would say he’s as modest and humble as any guy I’ve met, who’s achieved so much in this profession.

Cochell: I’m very proud of Sooner baseball and I was the caretaker for the 15 years that I was here, coach Semore before me, coach Golloway and now coach Hughes is here and I’m very excited about Pete Hughes being the coach. He’s going to do great wonders for the program, he has integrity, he has class, he’s a great family man. I think we’ll all be proud of Pete Hughes as a baseball coach at the University of Oklahoma.